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General Community => Global WebsiteBaker 2.8.x discussion => Topic started by: Bramus on February 27, 2008, 08:38:19 PM
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I was just reading the thread about the new 2.7 and i also have to say great job!
But as some other people i also dont like the new admin interface, just dont like the look of it. The old admin look was way better. So maybe we can post here our own modified version in this topic as addons to 2.7.
So if you have an other layout, post some screenshot here, and maybe you are willing to share it with other users as there are more people that dont like the new interface.
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Well,
it is fairly easy to adjust the WB backend according your needs.
If time allows, we will publish the backend styles of WB 2.6.x as additional backend style for WB 2.7 for all users which want to stick with the old layout. The new layout of course will be the default layout.
Smaller changes (e.g. color scheme) may find its way into the WB 2.7 final version. So feel free to post your suggestion here in this thread as proposed by Bramus. Be aware, we will not offer any backend templates via the official WB project site, which contain icon sets not released under GNU GPL or with an unknown license.
Two alternative backend layout for WB 2.6.7 can be found on the bottom of the following page: http://www2.escpro.de/pages/downloads/freetemplates.php (do not copy them over an existing WB 2.7 installation).
Regards Christian
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thx Doc :)
And the style made by macsmet is pretty nice, a clean nice style. I'm still busy editing the style and i hope i can finish it, or maybe i have to give up because my lack of knowledge about CSS and those things :P
My idea of this topic was, that if people made their own "layout" and they are made under the GNU license they maybe are willing to share the layout so we can have multiple layouts for the admin interface like there are multiple layouts for the website made by WB itself.
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Hi there,
Why not make the backend look like the WebsiteBaker site?
I like the colors of it and with some other icons you get an nice and clean backend.
Maybe I start doing it if more people are interested in my suggestion.
greetings,
MacSmet
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Hello!
Just adjust the admin layout so that you like it. 8-) We just thought there should be a "sign of a kind of change" with the new, (we think more fresh) 2.7 layout.
We can of couse have a section somewhere at Addons, where admin layouts could be downloaded and installed, but this is not possible automatic but only via FTP. And 2.7 is feature frozen, so we can not built in a button where the user can change the admin layout... That would be something for future releases.
But I am keen on seeing many different admin layouts here. 8-) Of course small changes (also to icons) of the existing 2.7 layout are welcome as doc said.
Regards Michael
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@macsmet: just do it and post the result in this thread - I am looking forward to see such a layout :-)
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Hello!
Just adjust the admin layout so that you like it. 8-) We just thought there should be a "sign of a kind of change" with the new, (we think more fresh) 2.7 layout.
We can of couse have a section somewhere at Addons, where admin layouts could be downloaded and installed, but this is not possible automatic but only via FTP. And 2.7 is feature frozen, so we can not built in a button where the user can change the admin layout... That would be something for future releases.
But I am keen on seeing many different admin layouts here. 8-) Of course small changes (also to icons) of the existing 2.7 layout are welcome as doc said.
Regards Michael
Just as an unsupported "template" like the addons, maybe a small readme with: "just overwrite the files and you are done!" or something like that ;)
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Hello,
one shoudl keep in mind, that the current backend template is not fully driven by CSS.
One needs to change:
- 3 CSS files
- 5-7 HTML template files
- 5-7 PHP files
- replace all icons
to fully control the apperance of the backend layout. Therefore we would need to support a modified template version for each new WB version, which makes things nearly impossible to support. So I do not see how we can fix this until the backend is fully driven by backend CSS styles which would enable to alter only the CSS and the files.
Regards Christian
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thx Doc :)
My idea of this topic was, that if people made their own "layout" and they are made under the GNU license they maybe are willing to share the layout so we can have multiple layouts for the admin interface like there are multiple layouts for the website made by WB itself.
I think it's a good idea. But I also think that the standard interface shold be really characteristic for WB CMS and also - in order to have a good marketing impact - it should be clear and convenient.
So: why don't start a competition?
Everyone who wants to apply would generate a full set of files needed for the whole admin backend interface.
Then the community members decide which one will be intgrated in the final version.
I mean, we have some really creative people here on the forums.
What you think?
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Hello,
I do not think a backend competition is a good proposal for the following reasons:
- there is simply no accounting for taste (what group A likes, group B will dislike)
- it is simply to late for WB 2.7 to start a competion for backend (we will release WB 2.7 within the next couple of weeks)
However, we do have already now 10 posts in this thread but no single additional backend style. So feel free to post your proposals in this thread. The 2.7 development team will review the results and may take over this or that.
NOTE:
We will have design freeze for the backend by end of this week (1st of March 08) so we can make the next step on updating the documentation (screenshots, description ...).
Regards Christian
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Hi there,
Started last night with a different backend design (based upon WebsiteBaker site).
I don't know if I can make de design freeze of 1st of march 08 because I am very busy at the moment.
I added a screenshot of my work so far!
MacSmet
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Hello,
thanks for your contribution. Do not like the icons but like your color scheme.
But keep in mind: You can not accounting for taste. Means what I dislike others will like and vice versa :-)
Regards Christian
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Hello,
here another contribution to an alternative backend layout from the forum member Erik (eki).
Erik hope it is ok for you if I post your proposal here. If you want to test it, overwrite the existing files of your WB 2.7 RC1 installation with the files contained in the zip package added below.
Some comments from myself:
- the white bar at the top looks to me like there is something missing
- for mee too much grey too less blue
- like the new icons top / right
- WB version is white text on white background
- styles of the installation script not updated yet
Regards Christian
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Actually I do like Macsmets version, - unlike Christian - including the icons (if they they are GNU). We should get rid of the gradient background as far as I'm concerned, but the overall look&feel (although not finished) is OK. Eriks menu bar seems a little too busy to me (but the icons are all right).
Vincent
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Hi all,
I made a minor change so the version text shows up again. The white space on top is meant to be, so it resembles the current WB website. The same reason I made the grey background.
I do agree with Vincent in that I like the version of MacSmet with regard to the menu bar.
regards,
Erik
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Ok,
I worked on the admin-interface this afternoon. I tried to make it near to the original WB27 but width cleaner background-gradients and I changed most of the icons. The icons are selfmade or from Opencliparts, so I think, it´s ok to use them. It´s not really ready, but if you can test ore use it, if you like.
What I changed to is the ugly office 2003-interface of the fckeditor. I think "silver" look much better and cleaner.
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[quote author=doc link=topic=8809.msg52160#msg52160 date=1204151110]
Hello,
one shoudl keep in mind, that the current backend template is not fully driven by CSS.
One needs to change:
- 3 CSS files
- 5-7 HTML template files
- 5-7 PHP files
- replace all icons
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If things have not dramatically changed with this version of WB, you can have a look at my detailed description on how to customize the backend at http://www.rot65.de/dokuwiki/doku.php/cms/WebsiteBaker/debug#einfaches_backend-customizing
(in German language only, sorry)
Regards,
Ayshe
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Hi again,
macsmet's screendesign is damn close to what I feel it needs to have. The current official one looks way too clustered and, let me be very open without taking any offence, halfhearted. Neccessary changes would be:
- less graphical cluster including less different backgrounds (usability and branding)
- more comprehensible and bigger icons (usability)
- clear position of the WB icon on top left (branding)
All this comes with macsmet's contribution. I only would like to have the log-out button changed. I also like it most because it comes with less glassy look - don't you know, fellows, that the glassy look is about to disappear again and clean structures revive?
Eki's contrib is quite alright, but not consequently developed. And tiesy's screendesign still looks too clustered (too many backgrounds). But I like your set of icons for the tasks overview and the Add-ons overview, they look very comprehensible to me. The icons on the right top are too dark and somewhat unclear, compared to their counterparts in macsemt's design.
By the way, it not just a matter of taste. It's a matter of comprehensiveness, usability and branding.
Best regards,
Ayshe
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Hi all,
See this is a very 'hot' topic!
I want to show you all what my backend looks for WB 2.6: very clean, with very few images.
I hope I find more time to finish my new backend design for WB 2.7.
greetings,
MacSmet
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Macsmet,
could your zip your images and place them here on the forum?
thnx
erik
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i like the last one up my post :-D
straight, clean, easy to navigate, no gambling with colors and images.
As straight, as WebsiteBaker is.
No bling bling, just a good working cms.
I already told the "designer" (escpro), that this style is out of date, but well... :roll:
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i think it is just the person who likes it and who doesnt just like doc told us already. I like the styles that are posted so far, hope to see some more coming :)
Nice job guys!
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i think it is just the person who likes it and who doesnt just like doc told us already.
No, it's not soleley a matter of individual taste. As I said in my earlier post, it's a matter of comprehensiveness, usability and branding. And these aspects matter a lot for a quite new and - let's be honest - quite unknown CMS.
If I want to present WB to customers, I want to present a CMS that does look straight forward, with a clean interface. And WB seriously needs a better branding, which is supported by a clean interface and a dominating logo too.
Believe me, I'm doing this marketing stuff since many years...
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... it's not soleley a matter of individual taste. As I said in my earlier post, it's a matter of comprehensiveness, usability and branding. And these aspects matter a lot for a quite new and - let's be honest - quite unknown CMS.
If I want to present WB to customers, I want to present a CMS that does look straight forward, with a clean interface. And WB seriously needs a better branding, which is supported by a clean interface and a dominating logo too.
Believe me, I'm doing this marketing stuff since many years...
What Spida says is the same thing what I meant before.
Maybe a Creation Contest is not the best idea to achieve a better interface and branding. But in my opinion WB CMS is the only one CMS I can setup a project with easy and put it in the hands of the individuals who will create the conten and where I CAN COUNT whith a result by those individuals.
I'm sometimes amazed how less the most people know about the computer basics, software and stuff.
Therefor I think WBCMS is worthy enogh to try to make it more popular. So more people can have this simple Solution instead of a mass of confusion.
And here is some more attempt needed.
At the other hand everyone who is setting a project up, has his own freedom to be creative on the user interface. One can even adjust the look of the backend to the corporate design of the corporation one is creating the project for (as I have done several times, here example: www.stolzenbach.de/admin (http://www.stolzenbach.de/admin) ).
But what I really think is, that some fresh new attempts could (and should) be done in the marketing, to conform to the benefits of WB.
Regards,
Stefek
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I agree with spida. It's good to see that the issue of design, usability and branding is addressed, although I think for now we should not discuss too long. In my opinion Macsmets proposal is both an improvement to the current design, and doesn't drift away too much from the original GUI. I understand we don't have much time to discuss this matter since version 2.7 is released in few weeks time, which obviously should not be delayed.
But for WB 3.0 it'd be good to have a brand new design to both the Admin section and the default template. Because indeed the way newcomers conceive a CMS (or any product) is very much defined by its look and feel. I'm willing to contribute to it, maybe some of us could form a small project team and come with a proposal for 3.0 that visualizes the ease of WB... if this is the way WB teams work of course.
Vincent
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But for WB 3.0 it'd be good to have a brand new design to both the Admin section and the default template. Because indeed the way newcomers conceive a CMS (or any product) is very much defined by its look and feel. I'm willing to contribute to it, maybe some of us could form a small project team and come with a proposal for 3.0 that visualizes the ease of WB... if this is the way WB teams work of course.
Vincent
This would be a great thing!!
I also would appreciate to contribute to this. :-)
Stefek
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I personally preferred the original design, as it was clean and simple, as apposed to the new "glossy" look. However, since I am not putting the work in, I think those that are should have the right to have it used. The overall 2.7 menu changes are great, and the functionality is awesome. :wink:
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Hello,
the development team decided to take over the WB 2.7 RC 1 backend layout for the final WB 2.7 version. However, we may offer an optional package with the WB 2.6.x backend style with the final release of WebsiteBaker 2.7. So it is up to you to decide which backend layout you want to use. If you like none of the layouts, feel free to adapt the backend layout according to your needs. We started with updating the WB 2.7 documentation.
Regards Christian
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Alea jacta est.
Too bad, that with this version the interface doesn't equal the advanced technical status. But I agree with Vincent and would strongly suggest a thorough new branding concept, along with the above mentioned changes in WB's appearance.
In the meantime I'd like to ask macsmet whether he (or she?) would like to share the backend style files. I'd like to use your visuals rather than the old (wb 2.6.x) or the new stuff.
Regards,
Ayshe
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@ Spida: I am a man so it is he ;-)
Do you mean my backend files for WB 2.6 or what I started for WB 2.7?
Note that the style for WB 2.7 isn't finished and will not be in a short period because I am very very very busy right now.
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I installed 2.7RC1 and was put off by the new admin look, so I deleted it and went back to WB 2.6.7. This new admin theme is really a big step back in my opinion, and it would be great to have at least the old interface available for 2.7Final.
Besides this, the theme by MacSmet looks nice as well.
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I dont really understand the agitation about the new design!
I think its a good step forward.
Of course someone could have done sometimes something somekind better - but why now that worries?
escpro has done a good work; i really dont think that the theme by MacSmet looks quite better. It looks like any other theme any one any time could have made. There is no arguing about taste.
But maybe someone thinks that the Apple OSX options-button is part of this theme :evil:
Maybe one of these heroes could start a contribution with a better loupe-icon? ;-)
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Hello!
I think the biggest problem are the icons. Either somebody can do them all together, or just use GPL ones, and only GPL icons, because WB is and will be OpenSource. 8-)
I can only say it was a great work of Escpro even he had not much time.
A good article about designing (the design of phpBB3): http://www.phpbb.com/development/prosilver/
You see? Of course we could wait now one year to find the perfect design, but we don't.
But it would be cool if some posted backend templates here could be used (and put to addons somewhere).
Regards Michael
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I think the biggest problem are the icons. Either somebody can do them all together, or just use GPL ones, and only GPL icons, because WB is and will be OpenSource. 8-)
Just to be clear, GPL is usually only considered to cover code.
Most open source graphics are CreativeCommons or similar licenses.
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BTW, I agree with the comments that the new icons are, um, not as good as they need to be.
Not to insult the artist but that's why we all need feedback, we cannot always get our thoughts across to everyone the first time and we all have different preferences. However, the drop shadow is REALLY overdone, and makes it harder to distinguish the image - i.e. harder to use.
Macsmet's designs look MUCH cleaner = clearer. And as stated, that translates into easier understanding and use and happier users. (I'm not sure what stage he's at - some looked a bit rough and some were a step back in my opinion - but hopefully it can be finished up and be installable even if it isn't ready for 2.7)
DESIGN does not equal fancier ART/GRAPHICS. Design uses graphics but design requires far more than that.
One example is the red circle with line through it. That is NOT a Delete symbol!! That is a disallowed symbol, for something like a hidden page or forbidden action. The garbage can (although a bit hard to see when so small) or a big X is much clearer as a delete symbol. Obviously the old "paper with magnifying glass" going to the left or right is not sufficiently different to remember which symbol is which action (especially for dyslexic people!) but the something mouse? over a planet is hard to see and slightly confusing (to me at least) as well.
EDIT - Actually..... looking over ALL the icons again, most of them really are not bad. The only ones that I really can't stand are the Start Page ones. But all it would take would be to reduce or eliminate the shadow and I think I could live with them. I'm not sure where the "not allowed" for delete symbol was, but I know it was in there somewhere. Thankfully that was not used.
I guess putting the visibility icon to the left is ok, although, it kind of bothers me. Probably just not used to it.
The mouse on the world is okay I guess.
But the clock for Settings is still weird. Why not a wrench?
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@ Spida: I am a man so it is he ;-)
Do you mean my backend files for WB 2.6 or what I started for WB 2.7?
Note that the style for WB 2.7 isn't finished and will not be in a short period because I am very very very busy right now.
Have been busy with other things, so, late reply now :-)
Sex don't matter, gender don't matter, the person matters.
I meant the WB 2.7 backend files. I am fully aware that they are not finished yet, but if they are some day, would you like to share them? (Not just with me of course, haha).
@DGEC: Thanks for the details on the icons and your general note. That might explain to some people, what design is meant to achieve.
@escpro: Really, buddy, nobody ever wanted to deem your work. It is great that you have put your time and creativity into it. It's just a creative's regular experience to face critisism on his work. And that is just meant to help improve the work.
@ ALL in this forum: I have the impression that mainly technically oriented staff is developing WB. No offence meant, but it's a matter of fact that php programmers usually have not studied interface design or - even better - communication design and thus are not capable of creating a working interface. Therefore I want to suggest that the develelopment team is expanded with a design unit which is supposed to consist of trained designers.
Best regards to all,
spida
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Hello Spida,
if you want to join the WB team, please send me a PM. For the WB 2.7 Interface it will be definitelly too late, but for a possible WB 2.8 you are more than welcome.
Regards Christian
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Any one made a new WB 2.7 Backend? Love to see some more interfaces.
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Hello,
I made a new backend template based on CSS and here are some snapshots. The header & footer html files in the "interface" folder are completely based on CSS with no tables. I also changed the start page in admin area to tableless. The other pages can also can be changed in similar manner but it could be time consuming.
If anyone is interested i can zip the whole thing and post it here for free download, assuming the forum rules allow that.
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hrioo,
Nice work you have there, I think it would be a good thing to share.
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Thanks SaBREN, here's the zip file.
First backup your admin folder with all its contents. Again backup the contents of your admin folder, then copy contents of this zip file into your admin folder. I have tested this on a default WB 2.7 English installation only.
To change text for any menu item, the appropriate language file in the root directory has to be edited.
I haven't tested to see if the modified css & html files validate & please don't blame me if this breaks your installation. If it does you can simply restore your admin folder from your backup and return to your previous installation.
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nice layout, hope you are willing to share it here :D
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Don't you see the download link? :roll:
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no i didnt, had not reloaded the page my bad, i was browsing it at school and then left the pc for what is was on firefox and when i was at home i suddenly changed to this tab and thought damn need that for checking it out :P
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WOOOOOW whats that ?? a big thread about the (my) design ...thats not real...
:-D :-D :-D
Escpro
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:lol:
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edit: ACC is commercial works now...
Infos about ACC -> Visit www.escpro.de
DOC (Christian) ask me to put a screen of my Admin Layout here
and ... ok its funny to design the layout but ...
my personal think... F**k the Backend Style
-> Get on Desktop Base :wink:
escpro.de/media/ACC/ACCbasic.htm - esc ACC (light) (http://www.escpro.de/media/ACC/ACCbasic.htm)
:| Live:
http://www.escpro.de/admin/login/index.php
GreenFields are intern data .. sry :-)
image delete
Gruß Escpro
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Hi Escpro,
nice video, thanks for putting the stuff in this thread for the public.
Regards Christian
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that looks cool, only hope it also works good.
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Hello Community!
I created brand new Back-End Icons, which I want to share with you all.
I only ask for feedback.
I created the Icons by myself and if you like them, let me know what you think about it.
I only created the small ones (the big will come later).
Best Regards,
Stefek
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there are some nice icons in it, but i have seen better recycle bin icons, from the enhanced admin pages for wb2.6.7 as far as i remember.
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Thanks Bramus.
Can you show me the recbin icons?
Purspose:
I want to create a set of Icons that really "communicates".
Therefor I created the Icons for the difrent view-conditions of the pages in unique colours. In this way it's much faster to recognize the pages view-condition.
Best Regards,
Stefek
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There are some nice ones, but some of them are rather like the same style crude icons WB uses now. There are lots of free open source icon sets available, so need to create them yourself. Just Google for them or take a look at for example
http://www.maxpower.ca/free-icons/2006/03/05/
http://vandelaydesign.com/blog/design/free-icons/
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And another cool resource: http://iconfinder.net/
Christian
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All right, but I really want to create a set of icons, which isn't collected from a couple of diffrent designers.
So I create them myself. Of course I look for diffrent ideas, but allmost all of the icons I'm creating now are done with vektors.
Thus I can create a lot of combinations.
What I really appreciate is not a new source of allready created icons but some exact suggestions, which of the attached Icons you like, and which you don't.
Thanks,
Stefek
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OK,
I changed some of the Icons and I'm attaching the new version as demo image only.
Please give me some more feedback on it.
Best Regards,
Stefek
EDIT/
once I'm done with it, I will attach all the small files too.
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Hi Stefek, i attached the recycle bin, i dont know what the license is
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Hi Stefek, i attached the recycle bin, i dont know what the license is
Thanks Bramus.
Please let me know, what you think about the other Icons.
I personally didn't like so much the "modify" icon.
What about the others?
Any suggestions?
Stefek
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what is the modify icon? i think the other icons are pretty good
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Hello Bramus,
I attached the modify icon.
In the standard-admin-template we have the first icon.
But because it is not communicating correctly the idea, I am going to recreate it.
Therefor I'm looking for some suggestions, which symbol would communicate the actions correctly.
The tree Icons below are my Ideas.
But I'm not satisfied enough - maybe the colours - for I think that the symbol is communicating properly.
What do You think?
Stefek
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well, i like the 2nd one, but thats just my opinion, maybe you should try something with a page like in the normal icon
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After few days of work, your comments in this post and all the suggestions via PM I do upload the next versions of my ICON Set for the Admin Backend.
This time I tried to create the colours closer to the WB colours. (Expect of the pages Icons with all the conditions of visibility).
Please download the icons and give it a try again.
Any further suggestions are welcome.
Best Regards,
Stefek
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Hello,
personally I do not like the "icon in a box style" too much.
However, the actions of the new icons become more obvious (e.g. private pages, registered pages etc.). The colors are fine and the icons look more consistent (one source instead of several sources). All in all good job.
Regards Christian
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Thank you Christian.
...personally I do not like the "icon in a box style" too much.
Do you mean the icons in the first group (because they are surrounded with a frame)?
Actually they are very good to recognize, while installed.
Or did you mean something else ?
Best,
Stefek
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Hello Stefek,
yes I was talking about the icons in the first group which are surounded by a frame what I called: "icons in a box".
But this may be due to the fact that I have used WB no for a while and I am simply used to see the "old" icons :-)
Nevertheless, great work and as I mentioned before, the actions associated with an icons becomes more obvious.
Regards Christian
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....yes I was talking about the icons in the first group which are surounded by a frame what I called: "icons in a box"...
Nevertheless, great work and as I mentioned before, the actions associated with an icons becomes more obvious...
Thank you Doc,
this is why I have done them.
I will leave the borders for the first, untill more users give their feedback.
More can be done on this "micro project", but I still need a little more suggestions.
Best Regards,
Stefek
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Hi Stefek!
This is a real great job you are doing here! It will be a great step forward for WebsiteBaker, when there are professional icons! And these ARE professional!
At the first glance I feared, the icons could "stick" at each other, but when I downloaded them, I saw there is no problem.
Maybe some sugestions: The "clock" icon seems to me like a smiley. I think its better to have the classic 3:00 clock. (I hate to write in english)
And the sections icon - maybe a (2) dotted line instead of the gap?
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At the first glance I feared, the icons could "stick" at each other, but when I downloaded them, I saw there is no problem.
Do you also mean the icons in the first goup, right? Yeah, there is no problem at all with it - we "old bakers" only are to accustomed with the old ones. But once you install the new ones, you don't want to miss them because of their self-explanatory.
(I appologize for my english :-D)
Maybe some sugestions: The "clock" icon seems to me like a smiley. I think its better to have the classic 3:00 clock. (I hate to write in english)
And the sections icon - maybe a (2) dotted line instead of the gap?
All right. I will consider your suggestions in the next version.
Thank you, Chio.
Best,
Stefek
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I like them a bit more with each new version. I think the next step would be to create a 3D look for the ones that are still flat. Now there are different styles. There should be more consistency to the look and feel of them.
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I like them a bit more with each new version.
Thank you, Argos.
I think the next step would be to create a 3D look for the ones that are still flat. Now there are different styles. There should be more consistency to the look and feel of them.
Yes. The styles are still a bit diffrent. Now after your posting I can see that.
I will improve the consistency factor in the next version.
More suggestions are welcome.
Best,
Stefek
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When will there be an update?
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Hello Bramus,
There will be an update soon.
In addition, togehter with another german member BerndJM, we are creating a whole Backend Redesign with some comfortable features. For example, you got a character counter in the Description-, Title- & Keywords-Fields.
I added also some Icons for the page settings which gives more clarity (not only for new users) and speeds up the work with WB (and really makes more fun).
All this is functioning without any DataBase change.
Everyone interested for Beta-Testing let me know (PM).
We (BerndJM & Me) will share the Backend with the whole community - after it's done and tested.
Best,
Stefek
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Stefek, Bernd,
sounds like great news, looking forward to see your design change proposals.
Regards Christian
P.S.: Is a character counter really necessary :wink:
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You will until this weekend.
I still have to do some work befor we can share it.
Anyone welcome to do some testing. Just PM me or BerndJM.
P.S. Yeah! The character counter is a real time saver and it's comfortable too. Thanks to BerndJM.
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Of course - everytime welcome.
:-D But anyway - I´ll give You a try, maybe You change Your mind.
It wasn´t too bad before - but now it looks really displaced.
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Of course - everytime welcome.
:-D But anyway - I´ll give You a try, maybe You change Your mind.
It wasn´t too bad before - but now it looks really displaced.
Hello Vyni!
As I wrote you yesterday (PM), I am now back in developement on this one.
Once I'm ready with the changes, I'll send you the zip-file of the backend, all right?
You're on my list.
The screenshot you send me, is one of the things to be changed.
Thanks.
Anyone else who is willing to test the new backend templaete I'm creating with some another community members is welcome to PM me -
But I'll not share the files until the middle of the week. Just exercise some patience please. The next test run will be before the middle of the next week.
:lol: Some of you guys will really love it.
Best Regards,
Stefek
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Hello.
This Time I'd like to prepublish my new set of the Big-Icons in the forum.
ANY kind of suggestions, critics and improvement wishes welcome.
I also attached the icons in the zip below.
Some of them I created from scratch - some of them I left as they are or "recycled" parts of them.
Let me know what you think.
Best,
Stefek
EDIT//
this is a dummy run.
I'm still in developement with this and your suggestions etc. could give a new direction into the creation.
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They look good and much better than the current ones!
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They look good and much better than the current ones!
Thank you Argos!
Beside the PM some of you send me about this Icon-Set, i would be glad if we could find some more suggestions in this thread.
Best Regards,
Stefek
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Actually the top right icons can be improved much. And after that the backend template should be improved, it's even worse than the old one. I don't have the time myself right now, but maybe I will do it myself sometimes if no one else does.
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Actually the top right icons can be improved much. And after that the backend template should be improved, it's even worse than the old one. I don't have the time myself right now, but maybe I will do it myself sometimes if no one else does.
Hello Argos,
currently I am working together with another German Member (BerndJM) on a new Backend.
Because of lag of time, it's not going fast enough (as I would prefer).
But we have a lot of some good improvements in the new backend-concept.
We allready had a "dummy-run" with this and the reactions of the testers has been promising - 4 of 5 where satisfied so far.
I think in the next week we will make the next "dummy-run".
Thank you.
Stefek
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Ah, that is good news! Looking forward to it :-)
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Is quite a while the results reported here were therefore my question.
What is the status?
Weil Babelfish nicht so gut ist hier der deutsche Text.
Ist ja schon eine Weile das hier Ergebnisse gemeldet wurden daher meine Frage.
Wie ist der Stand?
Stephan
P.S. man kann das auch hochpushen nennen. :roll:
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Remarkable! I was just planning to post the same question: what is the status of the new admin?
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Tomorrow I'll PM you.
The Status is:
80% Done.
Some corrections to be done on CSS and some icons still remain to be created.
I'll send out the Status as is and I'm really courious about your reactions.
I think I'll open a new thread soon, so we can dicuss this on an new topic.
Good night,
Stefek
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Hi guys,
As I'm a designer who made use of WB a lot for my web design business and I really did not contribute much in the community, I would love to make an ass-kicking back-end template for WB users.
I have finished mostly everything apart from the logo. Can you supply me the original vector file, or a transparent png? The current logo.png sticks with its gradient background.
Thanks a lot.
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OK guys,
Thanks to Stefek who provided me the logo really quickly, I can release this admin GUI faster than I thought.
You simply need to unzip, and then copy all the folders: images, interface, login then paste them into WB_PATH/admin.
You can view the screen-shot here: http://coffeemugvn.com/resources/WB27_adminGUI_screenshot.jpg (http://coffeemugvn.com/resources/WB27_adminGUI_screenshot.jpg)
And download the package here: http://coffeemugvn.com/resources/WB27_adminGUI.zip (http://coffeemugvn.com/resources/WB27_adminGUI.zip)
I hope you guys like it and this template can be used as official WB Back-End template.
Sincerely yours,
Hieu.
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Hello Hieu!
I would prefere If you could post the whole Admin Directory.
I'm working with Xampp and this make it easyer to switch between the different backends.
Best Regrads,
Stefek
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Here's another flavor of admin area for people who may like it. It's modified version of the one i posted before in this thread. Attached are a snapshot and entire zipped admin folder.
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Hi Stefek,
I have just done that, still the old download link: http://coffeemugvn.com/resources/WB27_adminGUI.zip (http://coffeemugvn.com/resources/WB27_adminGUI.zip)
Cheers,
Hieu.
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Maybe some one can post the logo on the forum, so we can also use it in our own backend templates but also on the site to let people know it was made with WB, a logo with text says more then only text, and when people see the logo they think hey i saw that earlier and that looked good.
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I also made a different admin backend. Used some other colours and the fisheye is implemented. Fisheye is something i used in www.marcelissen.nl (the flags) and i did it in the backend also for the 4 icons for "Home" - "View" - "Help" - "Log-out".
Hope you like it!
If you like it i could make it available for you all.
Icons are made by Stefek! Thanks Stefek for let me use them.
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Wow, there's a lot going on with the backend design! I am really impressed with the works presented here lately.
Since I don't have the time currently to actively design on this, I'd like to contribute my feedback though. I think of all the recent design contributions have their pros, and if we could combine them it would make a close to perfect interface.
@hrioo: Great colours. Well, you got my soft spot since I love dark red with black and white, but anyway the combo looks smooth and perfectly integrated. I would only change the blue-greenish line into another colour. So, if we could get the backend layout look as generally integrated like this concept it would be brilliant.
Your later contributed version is a bit too much all black/white/grey to me. But that's just individual taste, isn't it? Anyway I would prefer the website baker logo beeing preserved. The logo you suggest doesn't have the visual effect as the baker's hat has.
@Stefek: You're doing a great job on icons. I particulary think that the icons for page modification and preview are an improvemt. The clock icons aren't so easy on the eyes though, I think it's the divided square background which makes them a little less clear.
The big icons just rock! They are "speaking" and I love the little baker in the access and admin tools icons. It's a good idea to have WB's core and only constant marketing tool -- the baker's hat -- repeated.
I agree with Argos, that the top icons (logout etc.) need improvemt.
@Hieu: Your shot at the backend design produces a very clear interface with light colours. I only think that there are too many different shades of blue in it.
@Bramus: The fisheye is a nice effect, done on the top icons.
So, let me put things together: An integrated, visually smooth colour design like in hiroo's first shots, plus the new big icons and most of the small icons provided by Stefek, and possibly the fishey as an addidion. There we'd go, folks :-)
Regards,
spida
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@Stefek: You're doing a great job on icons. I particulary think that the icons for page modification and preview are an improvemt. The clock icons aren't so easy on the eyes though, I think it's the divided square background which makes them a little less clear.
The big icons just rock! They are "speaking" and I love the little baker in the access and admin tools icons. It's a good idea to have WB's core and only constant marketing tool -- the baker's hat -- repeated.
I agree with Argos, that the top icons (logout etc.) need improvemt.
Hello Spida.
Thank you.
As I wrote in a earlier post I'm also creating a whole Backend Panel which has some additional featueres and which makes working with WB even more comfortable and smooth.
At the moment I don't have the time to accomplish this but if you like to see the results, just PM me.
I'm using my new Admin Panel on every 2.7 Installation and I love it, because the work is going faster, than before und you can explain the production steps via phone much easier and straight forward.
As I wrote, this Admin Panel will be shared once it's really ready.
I don't like to publish something wich has to be updated again and again.
But if anyone like to see (as many users have done allready), just PM me and I'll send you download link.
Best Regards,
Stefek
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Spida, thank you. The so called logo i put together took me 3 minutes and it wasn't done professionally.
Personally i'm not too keen on WB's logo and to be honest i didn't even notice it was a baker's hat until you said so in your post. I always thought it was some sort of bread basket :lol:.
Anyway i agree with your points, so i made some adjustments to the first template and implemented WB's logo with a little photo editing. I also modified the horizontal menu a little bit. included in the zip file is the whole admin folder.
Maybe we should start a WB logo thread?
Have Fun
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Hi hrioo,
nosy me loaded Your package. But I´m wondering what for this zip is? Too much strange files in "mainfolder" - cant be a replacement for admin-panel!
I didn´t try - but I suppose this is something else.
Correct me if I´m wrong.
regards from Himberg, next to Vienna
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OOps! I apologize, uploaded the wrong admin zip file. I edited my post and the correct file is uploaded now. i apologize again.
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Hi,
personally I prefer a sort of blue color scheme like on the official website baker sites (e.g. forum) as those colors are what people associate with WB for a while. The other modifications proposed are cool anyway.
Regards Christian
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Wow great designs!
Im going to make one to, when i finished i will share....