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WebsiteBaker Support (2.13.x) => General Help & Support => Topic started by: Vlob on November 16, 2022, 04:17:18 PM
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Is there any reason why the official website baker website is so crappy in so many ways.
How can it be that the best cms one can find has such a poor, unprofessional website? Or is this on purpose and is the staff holding on to some sort of nostalgic layout?
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You mean https://WebsiteBaker.org ?
Do you want create a new one?
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Im working on it but dont have much time at this point
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DBS: that feels a bit like you take it as an insult. That was never my intention. I was just surprised that with a cms like Website baker and the -in my opinion- skilled people here the website does not show any quality.
If you look at Website Baker as a whole the website tears it down. If a new of searching webdeveloper finds the website he will most likely pass before trying and that is such a shame because Website Baker outclasses the vast majority of CMS-systems on this planet.
So that said, to answer you question: yes I do, or at least help out together with you, Crnogorac and the other top-level contributors here. I haven't been too active for a few years but am ready for the future and in need of a first class system with a first class look and feel.
Crnogorac: great to hear that, I would like to offer my skills, opinions and experience to both help and suggest. Feel free to contact me and tell me more about the plans and situation
Meanwhile I am building an new backend theme (and while at it tearing down some of the dull layouts of the modules), made a preview-function for the wysiwyg-module and am now preparing for a landingspage module which provides in A/B testing but first thing on the list is expanding the possibillities of the newsmodule with a.o. extra fields, a photo-uploader and a photo gallery option.
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A query for my understanding
Is it about the content or is it about the template used on all WebsiteBaker pages?
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but first thing on the list is expanding the possibillities of the newsmodule with a.o. extra fields, a photo-uploader and a photo gallery option.
Appreciate the effort you're putting into 'our' WB! As for that news module: I never use the standard module anymore, but OneForAll that has exactly that: make your own fields, photo-uploader + gallery with lightbox. Just saying :)
(In fact I am surprised not many more people use OneForAll, together with the supporting modules OneForAll Anyitems, Topitems, ItemGroup and AllItems it's the most powerfull module around...)
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A query for my understanding
Is it about the content or is it about the template used on all WebsiteBaker pages?
If you visite the awful thing and look around you will notice it is both a pretty enormous drama ;)
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DBS: that feels a bit like you take it as an insult. That was never my intention. I was just surprised that with a cms like Website baker and the -in my opinion- skilled people here the website does not show any quality.
If you look at Website Baker as a whole the website tears it down. If a new of searching webdeveloper finds the website he will most likely pass before trying and that is such a shame because Website Baker outclasses the vast majority of CMS-systems on this planet.
So that said, to answer you question: yes I do, or at least help out together with you, Crnogorac and the other top-level contributors here. I haven't been too active for a few years but am ready for the future and in need of a first class system with a first class look and feel.
Crnogorac: great to hear that, I would like to offer my skills, opinions and experience to both help and suggest. Feel free to contact me and tell me more about the plans and situation
Meanwhile I am building an new backend theme (and while at it tearing down some of the dull layouts of the modules), made a preview-function for the wysiwyg-module and am now preparing for a landingspage module which provides in A/B testing but first thing on the list is expanding the possibillities of the newsmodule with a.o. extra fields, a photo-uploader and a photo gallery option.
(Y)
Im also building backend theme based on bootstrap 5
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Mudule you can never have enough, so like to make WB even better with even more good modules.
A conversion to TWIG of supplied "core modules" is always welcome by the developers.
Where WebsiteBaker always pays attention to security and current php versions.
Other CMS have put more emphasis on "appearance", but security features have already been circumvented in the core.
This is not possible with WebsiteBaker.
I as a "user only" do not get along with OFA, but with News I do. If there is then a "news new" with more functionality, everyone will benefit.
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(In fact I am surprised not many more people use OneForAll, together with the supporting modules OneForAll Anyitems, Topitems, ItemGroup and AllItems it's the most powerfull module around...)
I heared that a while ago, I will for sure dive into that next week, thanks
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only, to think about it....
it is not possible, to build a TWIG-Backend-Theme without changes in the core.
a "core-module" (see part of the name = core) is part of the core and part of the package. Of Course, i can build a twig-based version of a core-module, but the developers needs the same time, to check my result, line by line. The same for some advanced function in working modules like news etc. i add for the news module in the past a special block for some autor infos, like contact via phone, email, autor picture etc, maybe, you know it from newspaper pages, but it is my private version, not possible, to make a publish version, because, it's a core module. I can change the module name and use it as 3th-Party-module, but it make no sense for me. Better solution (in my eyes): add this functions in one of the next version of the news-module, switchable in the module settings or something like that.
Another example: i add a extended search function in the foldergallery. in the actual published version, you can search for a picture title or the picture description, if in use. But if you dont use this title or descriptions, you get no results for something from the foldergallery. I add fields for gallery description, location, eventstart & -end, termininfo, autorinfo etc. Is it a good idea? for my usage: YES, but for all? Not sure.
I build a lot of tools and page module with twig in my own style. It has a special folderstructure and use everytime the latest and newest WB-functions, so i'm sure, i can use this module also in the future of wb without problems.
my problem: is my way also the way from WB? can i use my structure as modell for other modules too? From my view, is this the main problem: you need an example module (like the old Hello-World-Module). if i read the postings, i see a lot of activist's, People who sacrifice their free time to build something new, but everybody use a own way. This can be a problem in the future, because, not every solution will work in the future or is a good solution for WB.
i've access to the newest testversion of wb and with every new version, i check at first, what is new. Yeah, my modules works with this version, but is it possible, to make something better? Is there a new function somewhere inside of the core? But what is, if somebody say's, my way is not our way, is not the way from WB? i can put all my modules into the basket (a lot of modules, the first one was from 2015) or i use it for my own. I've a lot of friends or customers with this modules. What can i do? Delete this, it will not longer work? Not possible for me to build new versions of this modules in a new code style, if needed. And thats, why we need some module guidelines.
a very simple example is the wb-intern function get_user_id(), changed in the newer WB-Versions to getUserId(). A lot of modules use this code, to get the user-id from the actual user for the question: is this the superadmin or not.
Simple, to change the code for me , but there are a lot of users with some problems about this in the future. you've to fix nearly every module in the download-area for this
maybe the project-page (https://project.WebsiteBaker.org/) is a solution for that, specially for the core modules and to add there some idea's, because, the core modules are developed by Dietmar.
i remember, that i show a twig-version in my module style from the output-filter-module in the past (long time ago), but it was a wrong time, WB was not ready for this. if i see the actual version of this module, i must say, my way was not wrong. The module has now some newer features, but the structure was right and thats, what i mean. Its simple, to use this module as guideline for the admintools and build the used admin tools in twig-based structure, but if everybody use a own solution, it will not work and that is a waste of work and effort
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DBS: that feels a bit like you take it as an insult. That was never my intention. I was just surprised that with a cms like Website baker and the -in my opinion- skilled people here the website does not show any quality.
This template was made by (or based on) an old WB user John Broeckaert.
I think it is not so bad like you say.
The people with skills here are also people with less time to create a WOW template.
The current template is a step vorward if you remember the old template.
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Hello,
What you can do about twig theme is to generate code and via ajax to load it in container.
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This template was made by (or based on) an old WB user John Broeckaert.
I think it is not so bad like you say.
The ultra crappy low res header image and the fact that the side menu is made of images leaves the visitor that somehow lands on the website baker page with only one thought: "I gotto get out of here and find myself a serious website cms ...
Do you really honestly think it is not that bad? It is the single most hideous website for a cms you can find.
I do not know where you all want to take website baker but whatever it is, this website is not helping and denying it surprises me the most.
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The header image is not very good, I agree.
Everything else is a matter of taste.
I ask you to watch your tone. Your words show no respect for the work of others.
You are free to create a super great template.
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I already made the template but the code in individual pages must be adapted (for styling)
Do we have original hi-res image for wb box in header image(preferably without background) ?if so ,please send me.
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the actuel header image is part of the former version of the old wb-homepage, but there was no original files in psd-format, so that it was not possible, to build a bigger version of that.
i was building a version of this in 2020 with GIMP and with some small changes and in differents versions (with or without english text). Please take a look at this and tell me, if interest. i'll send then the whole package with all Gimp-files and part to hgs. Original Picture size ist 2000 x 612 Px
The pictures here are only screenshots
(https://i.gyazo.com/1fc17edb47e9ceff884cb7cca83709f1.png)
or without "hardcoded" text on the picture, if you want to use HTML-Text on this place
(https://i.gyazo.com/b5b04725215c95f4bc1e2d74fa0c5f29.png)
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I ask you to watch your tone. Your words show no respect for the work of others.
It is not a question about respect towards a bad crappy design, it is about respect towards yourself and the visitors that stumble upon the website and are now not left with any feeling of confidence...
anyone who does not see that needs new eyes...
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Eine Verallgemeinerung bring uns keinen Schritt weiter. Ja, dass Bild war ein Kompromiss, weil es die Originale irgendwo auf einer HDD gibt. Der ehemalige USER wollte sich aber leider nicht die Mühe machen, diese zu suchen.
Und über Geschmack kann man ohne Ende und Ergebnis diskutieren.
Ein deutsche Sprichwort besagt:
"So wie man in den Wald reinruft, so schallt es zurück."
Ich bin gespannt auf das Template von crnogorac081
Und gerne sehen wir uns als Verein auch eine Vorlage von dir an, Vlob.
Also lass dich herausfordern, die Bilder sollten nur abmahnsicher sein, die Anwälte haben zu viel Zeit im Web nach Copyright-Verletzungen zu suchen.
Generalizing doesn't get us any further. Yes, that picture was a compromise, because there is the original somewhere on an HDD. But the former USER unfortunately did not want to make the effort to search for them.
And about taste one can discuss without end and result.
A German proverb states:
"As one calls into the forest, so it resounds back."
I am curious about the template of crnogorac081
And we'd be happy to look at a template from you as a club, too, Vlob.
So be challenged, the images should only be warning safe, the lawyers have too much time to search the web for copyright infringements.
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... template ...
The template is nog the only problem, I am also curious about how it will turn out
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I believe I shared template with some people here, if someone has free server I can upload it again. But also every section needs to be adapted for to new design
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You have received a pm with the access data to the test server
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see reply
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Ok, die Herausforderung wurde von crnogorac081 angenommen und er hat diese Vorlage ins Rennen geschickt.
Link zum Projekt (http://crnogorac081.template.umojasingers.de/en/help-project/)
Leider war es nötig eine komplette WebsiteBaker Installation auf den Testserver anzulegen und Fehler durch die USB-Version ( Groß- Kleinschreibung wird bei Windows nicht beachtet, bei Linux leider schon) zu korrigieren.
Das ist aber nicht unser Ziel, deshalb bitte Vorlagen gestallten, die auf einer von uns installierten aktuellen Instanz von WebsiteBaker laufen.
Die WebsiteBaker Insatllation wird immer den aktuellen Stand haben und die aktuell auf dem Testserver befindliche höchste php-version z.Z. php 8.1.7
Wir freuen uns auf weitere Vorschläge, also lass dich herausfordern und schreibe mir eine pm, wenn du die Zugangsdaten benötigst.
In disem Sinne
Habe weiter Freude an WebsiteBaker
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Ok, the challenge was accepted by crnogorac081 and he sent this template into the race.
Link to the project (http://crnogorac081.template.umojasingers.de/en/help-project/)
Unfortunately it was necessary to create a complete WebsiteBaker installation on the test server and to correct errors caused by the USB version (Windows is case-insensitive, Linux is, unfortunately).
This is not our goal, so please create templates that run on a current instance of WebsiteBaker installed by us.
The WebsiteBaker installation will always have the latest version and the highest php version currently on the test server is php 8.1.7.
We look forward to more suggestions, so be challenged and drop me a pm if you need the credentials.
In this sense
Keep enjoying WebsiteBaker
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The header image is not very good, I agree.
Everything else is a matter of taste.
No it's not. It's a matter of recognizing terribly outdated design. Not everyone is a graphic designer, I get that. Some are great coders, others can do wonders with graphics.
I for one am very happy with the very skilled coders in this community, but please set aside the pride and agree that the WB website(s!) need upgrades, as well as the backend of the CMS.
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Ok, the challenge was accepted by crnogorac081 and he sent this template into the race.
Link to the project (http://crnogorac081.template.umojasingers.de/en/help-project/)
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I created this template some time ago but I stopped working on it because I had some priority things to do. My idea is to show this as tutorial for beginners.
If someone has better idea about design and functionalities I am open for suggestions and new designs.
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Da habe ich mich scheinbar falsch oder unklar ausgedrückt.
Entschuldigung.
Es steht jedem offen ein "Super extra geiles Template" für den Verein vorzuschlagen, ich habe doch gerade einen Wettbewerb eröffnet, warum immer noch "nur meckern"?
Und natürlich kann jeder auch ein BE-Theme erstellen und es dem Verein zur Verfügung stellen.
Ich komme mit dem vorhandenen gut aus, alles wichtige ist mit einem Kick erreichbar (Wartung, Userlogon an oder aus, i-Button, Errorlog, wo findet man sowas sonst. Beim Umschauen in der WB-Landschaft habe ich sowas nicht entdeckt.
Aber wir oben schon geschrieben, überrascht uns.
Und es gelten natürlich die vom Verein aufgestellen Standarts die von php 8.x auch immer mehr ohne AUsnahme gefordert werden.
Was wir als Verein darunter verstehen kann hier nachgelesen (https://wiki.WebsiteBaker.org/doku.php/en/dev/all/psr) werden
oder direkt auf https://psr.org/ (https://psr.org/)
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I seem to have expressed myself incorrectly or unclearly.
Sorry.
It is open to everyone to propose a "super extra awesome template" for the club, I just opened a contest, why still "only complain"?
And of course anyone can create a BE theme and make it available to the club.
I get along with the existing well, everything important is accessible with a kick (maintenance, user logon on or off, i-button, errorlog, where else can you find something like that. Looking around in the WB landscape I have not discovered something like that.
But as already written above, surprised us.
And of course the standards set up by the association apply, which are increasingly required by php 8.x without exception.
What we understand as a club can be read (https://wiki.WebsiteBaker.org/doku.php/en/dev/all/psr) here
or directly on https://psr.org/ (https://psr.org/)
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It is good to have more choices or even multiple templates. I remember most people using Argos over WB theme.
I am also working on a new backend theme.
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(https://i.gyazo.com/1fc17edb47e9ceff884cb7cca83709f1.png)
Can you make only WB box with transparent background
(https://i.ibb.co/bmHGYBY/11.jpg)
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Can you make only WB box with transparent background
Yes, of course, but not at the moment, i'll do it in the evening.
Tell me, what you need as file-format for this
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Png with transparent background
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(https://i.ibb.co/TbmJTfh/wb-box.jpg)
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Png with transparent background
attachment:
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(https://i.ibb.co/hW7FMK8/wbanner2.jpg)
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as attachment:
if anyone is interested, psd-files available
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Wow, that's a box picture and two banners.
And stupid that I now still have something to complain.
The VersionsNr 2.13.2 is already outdated in 1-2 weeks, the version 2.13.3 is shortly before the release.
My suggestion would be to leave out the VersionsNr.
What do you say.
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(https://i.ibb.co/1QtSqZr/wbbox.jpg) (https://ibb.co/bmMfB1s)
All psd-files incl royalty free background (pexels.com), logo as .svg and .eps and preview jpg-files:
https://we.tl/t-MortfAIenq (valid until december 15)
Have fun!
(I took the liberty to redo the cooking hat since it was a low res jpg imported into the vector)
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Thank you so much, you are a true artist. The graphics look like photos.
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Thank you so much, you are a true artist.
thank you, I hope it will be used asap
The graphics look like photos.
Who knows... I might just have a box containing some Website Baker here on my desk ...
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I have an addendum resulting from the Coperate Design (CD) of WebsiteBaker e.V. for the logo for all who feel challenged to create new images.
Quote from WebsiteBaker e.V.
The Logo
How is WB spelled correctly - WebsiteBaker, Website Baker or WebsiteBaker? As mentioned in our FAQ:
There were and are many different spellings. The association decided the correct spelling is "WebsiteBaker" - and nothing else. It is one word without any space, and "W" and "B" are written in capital letters.
So please do not use other spellings except "WebsiteBaker" - we know it's not easy, but give it a try.
What are the colors and fonts of WebsiteBaker? To avoid misunderstandings of the new look of WebsiteBaker we mention the colors:
Lightblue: Hex: #5B9ACF | RGB: 91/154/207 | CMYK: 66% / 30% / 0% / 0%
Darkblue: Hex: #003366 | RGB: 0/51/102 | CMYK: 99% / 87% / 26% / 19%
Font in Logos, etc.: Century Gothic Regular
Other colors that are used: White: Hex: #FFFFFF | RGB: 255/255/255 | CMYK: 0% / 0% / 0% / 0%
Am I allowed to change the logo? No, you are not allowed to change the logo in any way. We provide the logo as it is with a copyright: "by WebsiteBaker Org e.V. all rights reserved"
So if you want to use it, use it "as it is".
You can scale the logo bigger and smaller, but only if the height/width relation remains the same.
The license of the logo is the CreativeCommons license Attribution-Noncommercial-No Derivative Works 3.0 Unported
Quote End
Attached is an original logo, unfortunately not in super quality, so it is only for illustration.
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Do you realize you are bringing in a whole new version?
You all need to be consistent yourself first,
see this:
1: the low res file you attached, apart from the fact that you throw in a version that I think is used nowhere I also cannot think of a reason why you hand a low res file while there are svg files in the standard backend theme (so everyone has got that on their computer already). Looking at this version I think the blue color is nowhere near the logo we experience in the standard backend so one of them is off
2: svg file included in the standard theme, coming with every download, significantly f=different than the version you just attached
3: also an svg file included in the standard theme, coming with every download, you might spot the difference in alignment of the tagline, so here the inconsistency already starts
4: the version that is found on the website ( yeah, we know, the ugly banner needs to go and that is what this is all about but I thought it had to be present in this summery
5: The version right at the top left of this page and again different alignment
6: Great version, used nowhere but looking great concering alignment, colors, flat design of the hat, available as vector but created by me so won't make it I think ...
So the big question is: which one should be the one that is going to be used everywhere cause now your addendum does not make any sense (yet)
(https://i.ibb.co/SVPb3sF/Untitled-3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/8P0q7K1)
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Lightblue: Hex: #5B9ACF | RGB: 91/154/207 | CMYK: 66% / 30% / 0% / 0%
Darkblue: Hex: #003366 | RGB: 0/51/102 | CMYK: 99% / 87% / 26% / 19%
Font in Logos, etc.: Century Gothic Regular
Other colors that are used: White: Hex: #FFFFFF | RGB: 255/255/255 | CMYK: 0% / 0% / 0% / 0%
Attached is an original logo, unfortunately not in super quality, so it is only for illustration.
The attached logo was in totally different colors that the colors you hand us in the adendum. If I may be so rude I suggest you throw that logo away and to everyone else: please do not use that logo.
I have the idea no one has a real definitive logo of at least nog a vector version available/close at hand.
I looked at all the logo's and remade the logo with both the gradient in the hat as well as a flat hat version (which I think is way more 2023 ...)
attached you will find both versions as
- .eps (so that is a size independent vector file which you can use to produce offset print work, plot-cuts etc.
- .svg-files (for use on websites)
- 10000px width .jpg file to preview
This might be the closest to fit the rules...
(https://i.ibb.co/tq43PnX/WBLOGO2023.jpg) (https://ibb.co/CbzWs42)
(https://i.ibb.co/BB7H3Lg/WBLOGO2023-flathat.jpg) (https://ibb.co/m4YrTJH)
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Ja, der Eindruck ist nicht verkehrt.
Vielen Dank für die neuen Logo-Versionen.
Ich war auch fleißig und habe die versprochene Testseite aufgesetzt.
Testseite (https://wbtemplate.neu.umojasingers.de/en/help-project/)
Und gleich mal das 1. Banner von Vlob mit eingebaut.
Wenn ihr installationsfähige Templates testen wollt, schreib mir ein pm und ihr bekommt die Zugangsdaten.
Viel Spaß und überrascht uns.
Yes, the impression is not wrong.
Thank you for the new logo versions.
I've also been busy and put up the promised test site.
test site (https://wbtemplate.neu.umojasingers.de/en/help-project/)
And I added the 1. banner of Vlob.
If you want to test installable templates, write me a pm and you get the access data.
Have fun and surprise us.
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Do you realize you are bringing in a whole new version?
You all need to be consistent yourself first,
see this:
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So the big question is: which one should be the one that is going to be used everywhere cause now your addendum does not make any sense (yet)
Sehr gut erkannt und mit diesem Post auf das Problem auch sehr konstruktiv hingewiesen.
Das Ziel ist eine Logo, was auf allen WebsiteBaker-Seiten und in den Bannern und auf der Box einsetztbar wäre, wenn es dann auch vom Gesamtkonzept passt und Sinn macht. Und im Backend sollte auch nur noch diese Logo verwnedet werden.
Das tolle Logo von dir habe ich mal in die Test-Hauptseite (https://wb.umojasingers.de/en/home/) eingebunden und mußte feststellen, dass die zweite Textzeile die vorgegebene Farbe hat, genau wie der Hintergrund für die Links und damit ist der text nicht lesbar.
Ich sehe das so:
Wir haben einen Prozess gestartet, und das wird WebsiteBaker in der Aussenwirkung weiterbingen.
Ich sehe das da noch Abstimmungsarbeit auf uns zukommt, bin aber bereit diese auf mich zu nehmen.
english
Very well recognized and with this post on the problem also very constructively pointed out.
The goal is a logo, which would be usable on all WebsiteBaker pages and in the banners and on the box, if it then also fits from the overall concept and makes sense. And in the backend should be verwnedet also only this logo.
The great logo of you I have once integrated into the test-main page (https://wb.umojasingers.de/en/home/) and had to realize that the second line of text has the default color, just like the background for the links and thus the text is not readable.
I see it like this:
We have started a process, and this will help WebsiteBaker in the external appearance.
I see that there is still coordination work on us, but I am ready to take this on me.
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Nachtrag die Originale wbLogo.svn aus dem BE-Theme als Anhang
Addendum the original wbLogo.svn from the BE theme as attachment
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If everyone thinks the logo l made is the best option regarding color and alignment l will make a full set. This will include all the needed file formats and for instance .jpg versions in different resolutions but also versions for use on dark background an full white, black and greyscale options.
From there you can set up a standard and definitive folder with all corporate identity items to ensure everyone uses the same files
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A very good plan.
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for instance:
(https://i.ibb.co/nwLfkJQ/colorsamples.jpg) (https://ibb.co/10mK2WR)
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Hello,
I also need logo variation for light and dark theme 😁
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Dieses Logo wäre mein Favorit
und davon dann je nach Hintergrund (hell oder dunkel)
This logo would be my favorite
and then depending on the background (light or dark)
(https://gyazo.com/abce3cae2e9e80aa6c06031a4ae7d82d.png)
https://gyazo.com/abce3cae2e9e80aa6c06031a4ae7d82d (https://gyazo.com/abce3cae2e9e80aa6c06031a4ae7d82d)
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Hello,
I also need logo variation for light and dark theme 😁
I will make the complete set this evening
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Dieses Logo wäre mein Favorit
und davon dann je nach Hintergrund (hell oder dunkel)
This logo would be my favorite
and then depending on the background (light or dark)
(https://gyazo.com/abce3cae2e9e80aa6c06031a4ae7d82d.png)
https://gyazo.com/abce3cae2e9e80aa6c06031a4ae7d82d (https://gyazo.com/abce3cae2e9e80aa6c06031a4ae7d82d)
I understand but l will also make a set wit the flat hat, usable for when a gradient is not possible or will break
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In the installer, during a new installation, I also found another logo.
In most cases, the writing "WebsiteBaker" in white would be the better font color.
But that may well be all included in Set from you.
Thanks for your great work
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The whole set:
https://we.tl/t-RddK1Gae63 (valid until December 17)
included are:
14 color variations in .eps format
14 color variations in .svg format
14 color variations in .png format
6 color variations in 10000px wide .jpg format
6 color variation in 1000px wide .jpg format
color variations:
the two blue tones are used in the regular versions according to the corporate colors,
also included
- various options with white replacing one or both of the colors for use on colored backgrounds where one or two of the corporate colors might dissolve into the background
- white, black and greyscale versions
Both the gradient and the flat hat versions are included
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for instance:
(https://i.ibb.co/nwLfkJQ/colorsamples.jpg) (https://ibb.co/10mK2WR)
Please fix the font-spacing in "Baker". :)
Other than that: we're getting somewhere. And this is all just about the logo. Long way to go...
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This is the standard spacing of the font,
Please tell me: does only the spacing of the last three characters bother you?
I do not think the spacing there is off
If anything is off l think the W and the e are a bit wide but nothing really bothering
Please throw in a visual suggestion
(Eps included in the download)
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... font-spacing ...
(https://i.ibb.co/rvPbD3T/Schermafbeelding-2022-12-11-om-16-01-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/JCLxDq0)
version on the top: font spacing as present in the font itself
version on the bottom: manually changed font spacing
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Ich bin gegeistert, wie kreativ und konstruktiv an diesem Thema zusammengearbeitet wird.
Alle Vorschläge lassen das CD-Logo vom Verein wiedererkennen, und das ist das wichtigste.
Meine bescheidende Meinung zu den Zeichabständen:
Den Unterschied wird man am Ende im BackEndTheme nicht wahrnehmen, vielleicht in einem Haeder-Bild.
Aber Danke, Vlob, dass du auch auf diese Wünsche eingehst.
Der Vorstand von WebsiteBaker e.V. ist, nach allem was ich bis jetzt so gehört habe, auch sehr zufrieden mit den Arbeiten.
Welche svg-Grafik in die nächste WebsiteBaker Version ind BackEnd eingebaut wird, werde ich hier bekannt geben.
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I'm excited about how creatively and constructively people are working together on this issue.
All the proposals make the CD logo recognizable from the club, and that's the most important thing.
My humble opinion about the drawing distances:
You won't notice the difference in the end in the BackEndTheme, maybe in a Haeder image.
But thank you, Vlob, for responding to those requests as well.
The board of WebsiteBaker e.V. is, from what I've heard so far, also very happy with the work.
Which svg-graphic will be included in the next WebsiteBaker version ind BackEnd, I will announce here.
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But thank you, Vlob, for responding to those requests as well.
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But which version should we use as the final version...
if it is the version on the bottom I would like you to remove the wetransferlink from my previous post
I can send new files wednesday
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I'll try to find out by Tuesday.
Since the association is run voluntarily, I ask for a little patience.
Thank you
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all good by me, no problem if the info comes later, I just meant to say I do not have any time left before wednesday
just take your time
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meanwhile I doodled an idea:
(https://i.ibb.co/b1JnCrK/1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/rksJzZw)
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Hello,
woow, i like this Design. Hope someone could make the template of this.
Letter spacing in Logo: the smaller one looks more proffessional
Matthias
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woow, i like this Design. Hope someone could make the template of this.
thanks,
I could do it, let it rest for a while, see what others come up with and we'll figure out a way to lift up things.
Letter spacing in Logo: the smaller one looks more proffessional
If you all think that is the better version I will adjust it in a few days
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Better version:
(https://i.ibb.co/tJjHzpX/1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/tJjHzpX)
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Note that you need styling for homepage too, with all the intro and faq text.
Check the demo that is posted vs original version.
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Note that you need styling for homepage too, with all the intro and faq text.
Check the demo that is posted vs original version.
I always make only one page to convince a client
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For the current default BackEnd theme we need the font exactly the other way around.
So the writing "WebsiteBaker" in white
And the writing "Open Source..." in dark blue.
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The supplied version of Vlob is built into this test page in the BE here. Access data as already posted by PM
https://wbtemplate.neu.umojasingers.de/en/help-project/
For this, please also create the template installable.
Thanks
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version on the bottom: manually changed font spacing
Much better :-) The spacing 'built into' the fonts is usually off. In Photoshop you can correct that (most of the times) by selecting "optical" spacing.
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version on the bottom: manually changed font spacing
In Photoshop
In Illustrator! :wink:
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Much better :-)
Much Better is not good enough, please pick up the version enclosed in this post and finetune the spacing according to your timmermansoog and it will be awesome
I can make the definitieve set from that final correction (Y) (Y) (Y)
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Auf der Testseite für die Vorschläge für ein neues WebsiteBaker Gesicht in Form von Templates habe ich mal die Logos von Vlob mit meinen bescheidenen Mittel so umgefärbt wie sie mir am besten gefallen. Ist aber nur ein png-Logo, da ich svg nicht erzeugen kann.
Anschauen hier
https://wbtemplate.neu.umojasingers.de/en/help-project/
oder BackEnd hier
https://wbtemplate.neu.umojasingers.de/admin/login/index.php
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On the test page for the proposals for a new WebsiteBaker face in the form of templates, I have times the logos of Vlob with my modest means so recolored as I like them best. But is only a png logo, because I can not generate svg.
View here
https://wbtemplate.neu.umojasingers.de/en/help-project/
or BackEnd here
https://wbtemplate.neu.umojasingers.de/admin/login/index.php
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On the test page for the proposals for a new WebsiteBaker face in the form of templates, I have times the logos of Vlob with my modest means so recolored as I like them best. But is only a png logo, because I can not generate svg.
I suggest that we do NOT do that anymore. This is exactly why at this moment it is such a pile of s**t concerning the logo diversity.
Let's agree on setting a good set of official logo's and if one is missing eventually a slikked designer adds a set (eps svg png jpg) to the official stack of logos
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Anschauen hier
https://wbtemplate.neu.umojasingers.de/en/help-project/
As an idea for a direction where to go it is ok but it is a big bunch of inconsistent colors and shapes at this moment
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But that's what I'm all about.
This version (WebsiteBaker) in white and (Open Source Content Ma.....) in #003366 and bold.
This version is still missing in your files.
My humble attempt should make it visible in a live environment.
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In the two examples it is only a logo, and that is our goal.
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Much better :-)
Much Better is not good enough, please pick up the version enclosed in this post and finetune the spacing according to your timmermansoog and it will be awesome
I can make the definitieve set from that final correction (Y) (Y) (Y)
My apologies, I've been busy the last couple of days running my wedding photography business :-), if you still need me to look at the logo files, drop me an e-mail - I see those quicker than forum messages. 8-)
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Der Verein, WebsiteBaker e.V., hat sich für ein Logo entschieden, welches von Vlob so noch nicht vorhanden war.
Wie in #74 (https://forum.WebsiteBaker.org/index.php/topic,32101.msg224867.html#msg224867) schon angemerkt und gewünscht, haben wir ein Logo von Vlob genommen und die Schriftzeilen umgefärbt. (WebsiteBaker #ffffff und Open Soures Conten Ma...... #003366)
Das Resultat ist hier im Forum schon zu bewundern.
Danke für das Angebot von Vlob, dieses neuen Corporate Design (CD)-Logo in allen nötigen Formaten und Auflösungen zu liefern.
Da die schon gelieferten Logos, eine sehr schöne Arbeit, Danke dafür, den Wiedererkennungsmer kmalen vom neuen Corporate Design (CD)-Logo entsprechen, fühlt euch frei, diese in Euren Projekten zu nutzen.
Für die offiziellen Seiten von WebsiteBaker e.V., werden wir das oben zu sehende Logo nutzen und bedanken uns bei Vlob für die Umsetzung.
Dieses Logo dann bitte auch bei der WB-Box und das Header-Bild einbauen.
Diesen Satz an Grafiken sehen wir dann als Verein als das Corporate Design (CD) Packet an und behalten uns die ausschließliche Nutzen vor.
Der Dank gebührt Vlob für die Umsetzung.
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The association, WebsiteBaker e.V., has chosen a logo that was not yet available from Vlob.
As already noted and requested in #74 (https://forum.WebsiteBaker.org/index.php/topic,32101.msg224867.html#msg224867), we took a logo from Vlob and recolored the font lines. (WebsiteBaker #ffffff and Open Soures Conten Ma...... #003366)
The result can already be admired here in the forum.
Thanks for Vlob's offer to deliver this new Corporate Design (CD) logo in all necessary formats and resolutions.
As the already delivered logos, a very nice work, thanks for that, match the recognition features of the new Corporate Design (CD) logo, feel free to use them in your projects.
For the official pages of WebsiteBaker e.V., we will use the logo seen above and thank Vlob for the implementation.
Please use this logo also for the WB-Box and the header image.
This set of graphics we see then as an association as the corporate design (CD) package and reserve the exclusive use.
Thanks to Vlob for the implementation.
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The association, WebsiteBaker e.V., has chosen a logo
"We, the King...."
Great way to build a community and keep users/contributors motivated. /s
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I will do stuff asap but for now I have to compete with the clock to make my deadlines...
good to see the improvementsssssss
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In Deutschland gibt es ein Sprichwort:
"Mühsam ernährt sich das Eichhörnchen"
Es geht langsam voran, aber in die richtige Richtung. Also lass dich nicht von der Uhr hetzen und Danke für deinen Einsatz für WebsiteBaker.
There is a saying in Germany:
"The squirrel feeds with difficulty".
Things are moving slowly, but in the right direction. So don't let the clock rush you and thank you for your commitment to WebsiteBaker.
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Hi Vlob
What are the resours doing? Does the clock give you some more time for the final graphics set.
One idea might be to have a great header image to choose from depending on the season.
Or different header images for the different subpages.
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sorry,
been quite sick, need some weeks for full recovery...
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The community wishes you a full recovery