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WebsiteBaker Support (2.8.x) => Templates, Menus & Design => Topic started by: danfuh on October 05, 2009, 10:45:30 PM

Title: New WB Template: DanFuh Business 01
Post by: danfuh on October 05, 2009, 10:45:30 PM
Hello WebsiteBaker's,

last weekend i've designed and created a new, clean and stylish business template for WB.
(attached as danfuh-business01.zip)

Screenshot:
(http://danfuh.de/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/screenshot-en-w650.jpg)

The main menu is at the top, horizontal, and the submenu items are displayed in the sidebar.
The submenu is displayed only if there are subpages. Menu items are formatted until level 10.
Search and login in the sidebar will also be displayed only when their functionality is enabled in the settings.

In addition to a second menu at the bottom of the page, the template has seven additional blocks.

(http://danfuh.de/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/block-info-en.jpg)


The template generates extremely clean and structured HTML and it is XHTML 1.0 and CSS 2.1 valid.

The files are documented well.

In addition, all language-specific properties are available in english and german, depending on the selected language.

Would be grateful if you could take a look/review  at the template and possibly put it in the repository.

Regards
Daniel

Update: A newer version is below. (#post_msg101401)

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Title: Re: New WB Template: DanFuh Business 01
Post by: dbs on October 05, 2009, 11:04:48 PM
hi, looks good. tested(without changes) on wb-portable and it works.  :-)

only:
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Notice: Undefined variable: footerlink in...\wbdemo\templates\danfuh-business01\includes.php on line 267

Notice: Undefined index: page in ...\wbdemo\templates\danfuh-business01\index.php on line 18

dbs
Title: Re: New WB Template: DanFuh Business 01
Post by: Vincent on October 06, 2009, 11:19:44 AM
Hi Daniel,

I had a quick look at it, you've put a lot of effort in it!
It's beautifully coded, and has some nice features like putting the menus etc in the includes.php. Also the language variables are interesting. I think this is the first template that(almost) completely meets the template guidelines. There are many inspiring things in your coding that I can study on and learn from, so thank you for sharing!

Regards,

Vincent
Title: Re: New WB Template: DanFuh Business 01
Post by: chio on October 06, 2009, 03:18:58 PM
Yes! A great template with a lot of features; very well done.

(und jetzt auf deutsch..)
Klasse gemacht! Kann man sich echt was abguggen. Ich habs natürlich gleich mal bei mir eingestellt, der Vorbildwirkung wegen. hier (http://WebsiteBaker.at/wb-templates/template-danfuh-business01.html)
Title: Re: New WB Template: DanFuh Business 01
Post by: aldus on October 07, 2009, 11:31:13 AM
Hello

Hm ... like to see some //new// ideas, e.g. handling empty meta-tags ... fine

As for the first warning - it's simple: remove the dot left from the equal in line 308 inside includes.php :

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<?php // not this line ...
$footerlink  "\n        Design for ... [...]";
?>


The second one it's a little bit tricky at all; you will have to test for the key 'print' before
looking for the value ... to avoid brackets and unnessesary 'if-else-elseif' worms i would prefer something
like:
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<?php // this also ...
$print_or_screen = (!array_key_exists(&#39;page&#39;, $_GET) || ($_GET[&#39;page&#39;]!=&#39;print&#39;)) ? &#39;print&#39; : &#39;screen&#39;;
?>


in line 8 of the index.php to get rid of it.

Kind regards
Aldus

Title: Re: New WB Template: DanFuh Business 01
Post by: dbs on October 07, 2009, 12:48:34 PM
@aldus

have other line-numbers but it works.  :wink:

dbs
Title: Re: New WB Template: DanFuh Business 01
Post by: Hans on October 08, 2009, 10:29:00 PM
Hi danfuh
thank you for this template. It's great to see the new approaches you've chosen. I certainly will study your template to see what's all about. It's a nice template too!
Hans
Title: Re: New WB Template: DanFuh Business 01
Post by: Argos on October 18, 2009, 01:45:14 PM
Very nice contribution, and a real good general basis to customize. Thanks!
Title: Re: New WB Template: DanFuh Business 01
Post by: danfuh on October 19, 2009, 10:38:44 AM
Hello,

Thanks at all for testing and the great feedback!

I've made some changes, bug fixes and tried to do the the most things, described in the  WebsiteBaker Template Guidelines (http://addons.WebsiteBaker.org/media/template_guidelines.pdf (http://addons.WebsiteBaker.org/media/template_guidelines.pdf)).
All changes are listed in the new change log file.

Also I have testet the template successfully in over ten browsers.
Now the should correct displayed in Internet Explorer 6.0.

Version 0.2 of the Template DanFuh Business 01 is attached.

It is recommended to update the template in your WB installation.

Regards
Daniel


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Title: Re: New WB Template: DanFuh Business 01
Post by: doc on October 20, 2009, 08:06:37 PM
Hi Daniel,

just tested your business template with WB 2.8. Looks great, well done. One of the most professional free templates I have seen so far. A great addition for WB.

Regards Doc
Title: Re: New WB Template: DanFuh Business 01
Post by: Argos on October 20, 2009, 09:20:53 PM
Yes, it's great, although I have 2 remarks:
1. I don't like the big ASCII art stuff and German info in the files (minor remark, as you won't see it on the front end)
2. I wished it didn't have the license restriction to show all that copyright stuff in the footer, but it would be just a free restrictionless template. So, my question is: what to do to be allowed to get rid of he copyright stuff? I cannot show other designers info in a client site I deliver.
Title: Re: New WB Template: DanFuh Business 01
Post by: Ruud on December 01, 2009, 11:18:26 PM
The same for me...  :-(

I would like to use this for a site I am sponsoring.. (cannot spend too much time on developing a new template)
The license restrictions as they are right now makes it impossible to use it.

Title: Re: New WB Template: DanFuh Business 01
Post by: danfuh on December 01, 2009, 11:40:25 PM
Hello,

the intension to create this template was to show what ist possible.
I've spend many time for this Template an it is for free.
So I think it is O.K. to get something back. For me a Link is enough.
If someone needs a template for selling to a customer, this is the wrong template.

An other posibility would be to use all websites, built with this template in a reference list. Would this be O.K.? I do not think so!

I think if someone calls his company "webdesign agency", but needs free templates for the business, then he does not deserve that name.

Best Regards,

Daniel
Title: Re: New WB Template: DanFuh Business 01
Post by: Ruud on December 02, 2009, 12:04:24 AM
Ok, thats a clear statement.

I will not use your template. (even though I am not charging anything for the site in question)

I could start a discussion here about time and free stuff... but I will not do that either.

I think if someone calls his company "webdesign agency", but needs free templates for the business, then he does not deserve that name.

I do think you should remove that last line in your message.
You are making a living with a company that is using a platform where other people have spend a lot of time to build and improve to what it is right now. If you do not feel any obligation to give something in return for free, you should really think hard if you should use the names you are using!
Title: Re: New WB Template: DanFuh Business 01
Post by: Argos on December 02, 2009, 12:38:08 AM
I agree completely with Ruud. It's a shame you want something back for a free template. Publishing a template for an open source cms with the restriction that it cannot be used by professional designers (no professional designer will put a link to another designer in its sites), is silly to put it mildly. Publishing a template because you want to show what's possible is equally silly.

In my opinion you should either give it away free without restriction, and/or offer a payed version for designers to be able to remove the link back and copyright stuff.
Title: Re: New WB Template: DanFuh Business 01
Post by: BerndJM on December 02, 2009, 04:24:00 AM
Also Daniel,

ich kenne dich zwar nicht persönlich, aber deine Auffassung eines "freien Templates" ist schon ein bischen merkwürdig, ebenso wie deine Ausführungen, daß du "Zeit in das Template gesteckt hast" und deine Ausführungen über "Webdesign Agencys " ...

In meinen Augen stellst du dich hier ganz klar in ein Eck in dem andere auch schon verzweifelt sind  ...

Lehne dich also nochmal in deinem Stuhl zurück, denke nochmal in aller Ruhe darüber nach, und wenn du möchtest, teile uns dann mit unter welcher Lizenz dein Template steht.

Grüßle Bernd

Title: Re: New WB Template: DanFuh Business 01
Post by: chio on December 02, 2009, 08:44:12 AM
What is the problem? Danfuh made the template and he can also make the terms of use. A lot of templates have similar terms.
If you cant live with the link, dont use the template. its simple.
Title: Re: New WB Template: DanFuh Business 01
Post by: Ruud on December 02, 2009, 10:01:02 AM
I agree on that. Nothing wrong there.
I just noted that with restrictions like these it cannot be used, not even for a free website I am sponsoring.

The response that I should not deserve the name "Webdesign agency" is what I strongly reject.

Someone who has filled his company website with a free CMS and free modules made by others who gave their work to the community for free should not say something like that.
Title: Re: New WB Template: DanFuh Business 01
Post by: Argos on December 02, 2009, 11:56:46 AM
What is the problem? Danfuh made the template and he can also make the terms of use. A lot of templates have similar terms.
If you cant live with the link, dont use the template. its simple.
True, but I think the whole concept of demanding a link back is silly. Most users will remove it without permission, or will just not use the template. Nothing gained there. Why would anyone give away something under conditions that will prohibit its use? And what's the point of a link back anyway? Incoming traffic from amateur sites?

Asking to kindly not remove copyright info in the html code is the only sensible thing to do in my opinion.