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DGEC:
Wow... someone at least as loquacious as me! :-o And who actually reads and responds to the points even?! :wink:
I have given up on expecting decent replies because nobody reads more than 1 or 2 points. I won't try to do it either today (okay, I lied. But not all of the points, at least) but glad to be of service. I see you have lots of ideas, and learn from what you are doing. Excellent - keep it up! And even better, you have people wanting more!
Footer - yes, MUCH better, still quite subtle.
Uh... 1920 x 1200.... 1920.... :cry:
CRT - just fine a small monitor that someone is throwing out. Or even a little old TV if you have (or want) a composite video test!
The grey etc... er... not sure I understand - The whole POINT is it's supposed simulate how your site will look to someone with the choosen eye problem (e.g. no green, all grey, etc). Are you getting a different response? You site looked okay on all tests I tried, except for the footer text. Unlike people who put Blue text on a Red background or something equally silly.
I will study that drop-down code, as soon as I can. I have several things taking precedence unfortunately - including concert posters and retrieving kids from vacation at grandparents. Not to mention work. The FF using-people will have to wait. It's especially annoying because I got FF working again (had the bad profile issue, "already running!" bah!) and WebDev & Firebug are awesome tools. I used them to figure out that the top level menu is getting pushed down from the nav bar somehowand is either invisible (white text on white background - losing the background colour - :roll: or being overlaid by the rest of the menu.
It's based on the Generic design, which seems to work fine on another site, so not sure what got broken. I may have to restart the design. Hmm. I wonder if he updated it after I downloaded it. Maybe it would be better to start from the default template again. I think I just talked myself into it. Might as well if I'm going to use the drop-down code you supplied. I have to redo some of it anyway, because I wanted to do multiple content blocks. Sigh... soon... but they need the poster ASAP... I worked up a concept this morning since I woke up early. Way too early. Er... sorry, nothing to do with your design!
sboots:
--- Quote from: DGEC on August 24, 2007, 08:47:23 PM ---Wow... someone at least as loquacious as me! :-o And who actually reads and responds to the points even?! :wink:
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Hee hee... this makes my day. I have found a kindred spirit. But I've also been one-upped: loquacious?! Dude!! What a good word. I'm going to look it up right now.
Done. I likes it. :-) Loquacious. Yes, that seems accurate. ;-)
I totally appreciate your awesome critique. It really has been great to hear. Thank you so much.
--- Quote ---Footer - yes, MUCH better, still quite subtle.
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Thanks again for the heads-up.
--- Quote ---Uh... 1920 x 1200.... 1920.... :cry:
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I thought it was sweet, till I started designing websites on it. There's such a ridiculous range nowadays, between 800x600's and widescreen LCDs... it's kind of annoying. Perhaps I should actually learn how to design a variable-width page. :| Good call, though. I'm sure I'll be able to track down a CRT.
--- Quote ---The grey etc... er... not sure I understand
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My bad. I was looking at the coverage test. :-) It's all good on the real colorblind tests. Thanks again for showing me that.
--- Quote ---Unlike people who put Blue text on a Red background or something equally silly.
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Myspace is the bane of my existance. Yours too, no doubt! :roll:
--- Quote ---I will study that drop-down code, as soon as I can. I have several things taking precedence unfortunately - including concert posters and retrieving kids from vacation at grandparents. Not to mention work. The FF using-people will have to wait. It's especially annoying because I got FF working again (had the bad profile issue, "already running!" bah!) and WebDev & Firebug are awesome tools. I used them to figure out that the top level menu is getting pushed down from the nav bar somehowand is either invisible (white text on white background - losing the background colour - :roll: or being overlaid by the rest of the menu.
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Hey, no worries. If the code's of use to you, awesome! I know, eh? Life is getting in the way of my website bakin' time!! Glad you got FF working again - yeah! I could *not* design websites without those 2 addons! Are you running linux? (That would be awesome! I just thought of that cause of the already-running issue; that's where I've experienced it.) All the best with your design there.
--- Quote ---It's based on the Generic design, which seems to work fine on another site, so not sure what got broken. I may have to restart the design. Hmm. I wonder if he updated it after I downloaded it. Maybe it would be better to start from the default template again. I think I just talked myself into it. Might as well if I'm going to use the drop-down code you supplied. I have to redo some of it anyway, because I wanted to do multiple content blocks. Sigh... soon... but they need the poster ASAP... I worked up a concept this morning since I woke up early. Way too early. Er... sorry, nothing to do with your design!
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Hey, it's all good! Sometimes it gets hard to keep track of it all, eh? Good luck with it all. Feel free to copy anything useful from my site; you've helped me so much already. Anyway, I'd better go to bed; more baking to do tomorrow morning! It's so great to hear from you, and all the best. Thanks for everything!
DGEC:
--- Quote from: sboots on August 25, 2007, 05:52:54 AM ---Hee hee... this makes my day. I have found a kindred spirit. ....
Done. I likes it. :-) Loquacious. Yes, that seems accurate. ;-)
I totally appreciate your awesome critique. It really has been great to hear. Thank you so much.
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Thanks "Anne" :-) Glad it was a help.
--- Quote ---I thought it was sweet, till I started designing websites on it. There's such a ridiculous range nowadays, between 800x600's and widescreen LCDs... it's kind of annoying. Perhaps I should actually learn how to design a variable-width page. :| Good call, though. I'm sure I'll be able to track down a CRT.
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Yep. And don't forget about phones & pda's. "Device independent design" is not easy to do -- well.
I'm doing more and more of my surfing with my Palm, due to availability of a computer seat. These dang kids taking over the computer... :x :wink:
Fluid is easy! Fluid DESIGN, even somewhat complex, is only slightly harder. But PORTABLE fluid design is the killer - unless you're using a minimalist design. Which is actually not a bad idea.
Another suggestion - if you don't know about them, check out ALA & PIE.
Look up this one on a design that switches layouts, depending on screen size, http://www.alistapart.com/articles/switchymclayout
And this one is an interesting semi-fluid design with min & max values (even in browsers that don't understand it)
http://www.positioniseverything.net/articles/sidepages/jello-piefecta-clean.html
No idea about actual compatibility though.
--- Quote ---Myspace is the bane of my existance. Yours too, no doubt! :roll:
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Shudder.
--- Quote ---Are you running linux? (That would be awesome! I just thought of that cause of the already-running issue; that's where I've experienced it.)
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Na, was WinXP. I have run various Linux at different times, and am trying to increase the usage. Ubuntu is very slick. Going to try out the latest KUb version 7. XUb 6 was pretty nice but for various reasons, I haven't done a full Ub install (including past LILO issues on other machines).
The FF problem seems to have been a common problem - bad profile state due to a system crash/reboot. Not surprising given all the clutter running on the machine - was ground to a halt for awhile. Between Win Defender. ClamAV, BSafe filter & firewall, ReturnNil virutalization and now SafeSurf... and those are just the stuff I had to add for various security reasons. Including yet another MyWebsearch infection. Bah. I haven't had one of those on that box before due to (usually) locking the careless surfers out of the Admin account. Leave them alone for 10 seconds and... :x
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