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bfuller:
Please read my modification to original post.

Bob

Argos:
Bob, you seem to be confused about static versus dynamic. In fact is has nothing to do with CMS versus weblog or what have you. It's much simpler:

Dynamic = the content is stored in a database, which is taken from the database at the moment the page is shown in a browser. The code (php, asp, etc) in that page/section/widget/blog tells the database at that very moment what data it needs to feed to the browser. Many times the content consists of multiple content items, stored at different tables in the database, but all shown together at the moment the browser (website visitor) wants to see it. So everything a visitor sees in his browser is put together dynamically at that very moment, but the page and the source code you can see in your browser doesn't exsist as such in 'regular' form. It can't be stored locally on your pc for that reason.

Static = html page with both code and content together in 1 content item (the "page"), without any dynamic connection to a database. What you see in the browser is all present in the page, that can be stored locally as well.

That said, every CMS has dynamic output. That's the core principle of a CMS. Sometimes a CMS can export certain content in a static form (for example regular pages that don't change very often), but WB doesn't have such a function.


--- Quote ---A static page being a page that doesn’t change.
--- End quote ---

No. You can create a page in WB and not change it for 10 years. It's still a dynamic page, because the content is pulled dynamically from the database every time the page is shown in a browser. In contrast, you can create a static page with HTML and content and CSS and javascript etc, and change it 10 times a day (manually), and it still is a static page.

bfuller:
Argos

Not so sure I am confused as you might think, just think you and I differ on termology. In my modification to original post you will note one of the developers of Word Press wrote the article I attached, about how to make static pages in word press. (And yes I understand if you use scripts to make the page do things it uses a data base for that, but the page content can be static.)
Word Press can be used as a CMS not just a blogging tool. (Matter of fact have built a site using that developers techniques and it works just fine. (The biggest problem I find is the learning curve for Word Press. Web Site Baker is  a bit easier to learn and when showing others that work on the site the easier the better), which is why I inquiring about Web Site Baker.

The definition of Static and DYNAMIC WEB PAGEs Pages that I found

STATIC WEB PAGE: A static web page shows the required information to the viewer, but do not accept any information from the viewer.

DYNAMIC WEB PAGE: A dynamic web page displays the information to the viewer and also accepts the information from the user
Railway reservation, Online shopping etc. are examples of dynamic web page.

Dynamic vs Static web Pages
How Dynamic Web Pages Rank in Search Engines Compared to Static Web Pages
This article will explain the differences between dynamic web pages vs static web pages and why dynamic web pages can't be indexed in the search engines.
The internet used to consist solely of HTML or static web pages, i.e., web pages that are not changed before being displayed in a web browser. However, now dynamic web pages are the norm when a shopping cart is involved because the software loads the category and then collects the product searched for and assembles everything as the browser loads the page. Those pages are not usually set up as HTML and may change with every search thus the search engines will never see the contents. Software for shopping carts often doesn't allow unique titles either which further hampers keyword ranking.


Dynamic pages
In order to generate dynamic pages it requires a script program such as ASP, PHP or CMF to generate instructions to call up and construct the dynamic pages after the surfer inputs some data in a search program. Dynamic pages often use characters in their URL which prevent the search engines from reading and indexing the data on that page, i.e., "&id=". They also often utilize Session IDs in the URLs which, if not properly written, will prevent search engines from following links on that page (or cause an inflated page count) and those pages don't gain PR (Page Rank) from Google either. If you are familiar with using HTACCESS you can set up redirects for dynamic URLs by using a tool to rewrite URLs.

There are other ways of getting around this but it requires special software and extra time to do it which raises expenses for the client. Dynamic web pages can be used in a catalog or database (as long as these products are also displayed in static pages) but they should never be used on the main pages of the website. You can find more info on session IDs on WebMasterWorld's forum: Can Google crawl ASPX pages?

Static Pages
Static pages are already established and are not drawn up from bits and pieces from a search query. Until recently search engines could not surf dynamic pages and thus items on such sites were not listed in search engines but today some search engines, like Google and Yahoo, are able to do so. However it takes longer for them to index all the data and if you have set up similar static pages it can cause supplemental results penalties unless one or the other has a noindex meta tag on it.
Databases
Most large e-commerce sites produce product pages from their databases that are dynamic pages. You can recognize a dynamic URL because it will have question marks, equal signs and ampersands in it which tells the database management software which item to draw up in the page as it loads. They don't actually have these pages set up on their site, they are called up (dynamically generated) from their database as you request information in a form. These dynamic pages may not produce any PR (position rank in Google) because Google only attributes PR to static pages.

Dynamic Pages to HTML
Dynamic pages can be turned into static pages so the search engines will list the pages but here again you need to be concerned with duplicate content penalties or you can also ban the search engine from the database version via the robots.txt file. You also need to consider if this technology, and it's problems, is compatible with your designing budget.

crnogorac081:
Ok, lets just break this discussion, and just simply tell us what you want...

Do you want to create a content, like text so visitors can just read it, or you want more interaction with them, like online shop or something..

Argos:

--- Quote from: crnogorac081 on August 12, 2009, 01:40:25 AM ---Ok, lets just break this discussion, and just simply tell us what you want...

Do you want to create a content, like text so visitors can just read it, or you want more interaction with them, like online shop or something..
--- End quote ---

Yeah, it's a bit off topic indeed, although it seems that the information bfuller came up with just confirms my explanation. He just misinterprets it in my opinion. The info he quoted is not fully correct either. But ok, let's not dwell on that.

His question was if WB creates static pages, because he may want to use it for a shopping cart and he is concerned about SE scores.

Well, WB does not create static pages, and its only decent shopping cart module is very basic compared with dedicated shopping cart software.

The dynamic pages of WB can obtain high SE scores though, so don't be afraid that WB sites will not show up or cannot score high in Google etc.

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