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Lotus:
The obvius thing is that CMSMadeSimple is more complex and there for contains more built in features.
But how do you compare the two?
I think the installation is more or less the same, it fills the database if you want.
You can do the same things more or less the same way in admin.

What do you think?

Stefek:
The only thing I can agree with is the fact that CMS MS is more popular.
More peole is using it.

The side-effekt of being relatively "unknown" is the lag of contributors, developers and designers.

I can not see any another advantage of CMS MS.
WebsiteBaker is more easy to use.
You have better possibilities to teach your customer in content editing.
The template system is more easy (Look at Show_menu2 and it's unlimitted possibilities).
The Section Management per Page is a easy to use feature.

I would never create a Customer Homepage with CMS Made Simple as long as WebsiteBaker is availaible.

So one of the most important things for the Future of WebsiteBaker is it's "Marketing".
The more people is using it, the more people will contribute to it.


Regards,
Stefek

Lotus:
Yes those are good points. The one who came up withe the idea of sections is a genius!

I think the road to more contributors is more powerful modules in keyareas like blogging, e-commerce, forum..
-As most modules are made for a specific task on a specific site they are in need of modification, sometimes very hard to do. It needs at least one rock solid module for a specific common purpose. like..text..WYSIWYG is great, form..form is getting there, image gallery..this one is poor, news..could be better (trying to se this in a selling point of view)

More powerful admin features controlled by rights management
- i think template edit is great
- I need more advance fetures to control pages..moving, duplicating, setting rights..

A better looking and faster admin ..apple simplicity

Installation is great..

It has to look good right out of the box...and the community site has to be more focused on comunity stuff.
I realize im complaining =) , just want to se this app getting better, something even more usable to me and my clients. dont get me wrong..i like this app..done about 15 sites now and more to come.. =) but it looks like im growing out of it when striving to make better and better solutions.

Stefek:

--- Quote from: Lotus on November 29, 2008, 02:23:54 AM ---just want to se this app getting better, something more usable to me and my clients.
--- End quote ---
Don't seems to me like a complaining - but if there is something you want to contribute, just feel free to do so.


--- Quote from: Lotus on November 29, 2008, 02:23:54 AM ---I think the road to more contributors is more powerful modules in keyareas like blogging, e-commerce, forum..

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No, I don't think that this is the road to more contributors. The road to more contributors is a matter of exchange (for example a plattform for contributors where they can place a link to their services).
The road to more users is a high quality outgoing communication about the CMS, a solide plattform for contributors and a working community structure.

Regards,
Stefek

apple:

--- Quote from: Stefek on November 26, 2008, 01:02:22 PM ---The only thing I can agree with is the fact that CMS MS is more popular.
More peole is using it.

I would never create a Customer Homepage with CMS Made Simple as long as WebsiteBaker is availaible.

Regards,
Stefek

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WB is best by far for simplicity. CSM MS is far too complicated for someone who is starting out. I have just convinced someone to switch over to WB and they are very happy it. They were completely lost with CMS MS and it took too much of my time trying to show them. At the end, I suggested that they switch over to WB. Thye have never heard of WB before that. I wonder how many people who are using CMS MS knows that WB exists... WB is the winner!

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